Re: [lojban] Re: I love Lojban's approach, but what's the deal with place tags?

[Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu>]

On Tuesday 05 April 2011 11:36:04 Joel T. wrote:
> la suzyn. klama la paris. la berlin. zo'e le karce (English structure)
>
> and
>
> la suzyn. fu le karce fi la berlin. fe la paris. klama (Turkish
> structure)
>
> You can imagine how hard it is for native English speakers to get used
> to Turkish sentence structure, in fact my parents never quite did. At
> least in Turkish when you change the structure of a sentence you do it
> for a reason, like emphasis. But Lojban expects me to be able to adapt
> mid-paragraph for somebody who uses any and all possible sentence
> structures on a whim! My brain would flip!

The Turkish order above I find highly marked, and with three sumti places 
marked with FA I don't know what's supposed to be emphasized. I think "la 
suzyn. klama la paris. la berlin. fu le karce" and "la suzyn. la paris. la 
berlin. fu le karce cu klama" are both unmarked. The version with "zo'e" 
calls a slight attention to the non-statement of the route. In the absence of 
skipped places, conjunctions which have to have the same sumti in the same 
place of two different selbri, and attempts to mimic foreign word order or 
fit scansion, I think a normal limit is one SE on the selbri and one sumti 
marked with FA.

Pierre
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Já não percebe nada, já não percebe nada.

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