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Re: [lojban] xorlo and default quantifiers

  Sorry.  That wasn't my intent.  I just get a large case of MEGOcity whenever the talk turns to obscure linguistic points.  I have the same attitude towards lojban that Rabbi Hillel (ca 2000 years ago) had towards Jewish Law (halachah).  To find out what the actual practice of the law is, turn to see what the Jewish people are doing (ex. Babylonion Talmu Pesachim 66a).  To find out what the definition of lojbanic grammar/words are, see how it's actually being used.  And one can't do that if it's not actually being used.  I.e., less talk /about/ lojban , more talk /in/ lojban. (pe'i lo nu tavla fi la lojban kei lo nu tavla ba'e fo  la lojban kei lo ka vajni cu na zbasu). I recognize that not everyone treats lojban as a living language, however.
                      --gejyspa
 
                    

On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 10:13 AM, John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrote:
May we infer from the fact that this thread has turned into a phallomachy about Lojban skills that everyone is clear that {lo} descriptions do not have implicit external quantifiers and that {no} wouldn't be an appropriate one even it they did?

From: Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, May 4, 2011 8:43:56 AM

Subject: Re: [lojban] xorlo and default quantifiers

.u'i mi ba nelci lo nu kelci .i pe'u ko cfagau

On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 9:39 AM, .alyn.post. <alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote:
dai zo'o ma'a kakne lo nu finti lo pluja lojbo bende .ijonai kelci
lu ko jimpe ba'e ti li'u noi zvati la .xedbig.

.i mu'o mi'e .alyn.

On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 09:17:49AM -0400, Luke Bergen wrote:
>    .u'i va'o lo nu lo sidbo cu vajni mi kei mi sampu cusku mu'i lo nu mi na
>    djica lo nu toljimpe cu'u mi .ija'ebo mi so'aroi sampu cusku .ija'ebo mi
>    la'a masno cirko lo ka kakne lo nu pluja cusku .u'i .uinai
>
>    On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 9:06 AM, .alyn.post.
>    <[1]alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote:
>
>      ni'o .ue.ui mi capu jimpe di'u pe la xorxes .e la cribe .i mi pu
>      pilno lo jbovlaste lo nu sisku lo se valsi po'o so'u valsi .i zo'o
>      do simlu lo ka cusku lo sampu lojbo
>
>      .i mu'o mi'e .alyn.
>      On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 08:06:50PM -0400, Luke Bergen wrote:
>      > � � mi na djica lo nu cusku lo du'u srera lo nu cilre ca lo nu tadni
>      .i mi
>      > � � ji'a bangu pilno ca lo nu mi cilre .iji'abo mi ba'e caca'a cilre
>      .u'i
>      >
>      > � � 2011/5/3 Jorge Llamb�as <[1][2]jjllambias@gmail.com>
>      >
>      > � � � 2011/5/3 Luke Bergen <[2][3]lukeabergen@gmail.com>:
>      > � � � > .u'i do tcetce cizra lo jbopre .i pe'i so'e lo nintadni cu
>      cusku lo
>      > � � � glibau
>      > � � � > befi lu mi nintadni .iku'i mi jinvi lo du'u mi cilre tai traji
>      sutra
>      > � � � va'o lo
>      > � � � > nu mi pilno lo jbobau ca lo nu mi cilre li'u
>      >
>      > � � � pe'i lo nu pilno ca lo nu cilre cu xagrai ja selte'i ji'asai lo
>      ka
>      > � � � cilre lo bangu kei lo tadji
>      > � � � mu'o mi'e xorxes
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