Mmmm. Given that, I think the two words with the most subtle distinction are rinka and gasnu
On Jun 22, 2011 10:45 PM, "Alex Rozenshteyn" <
rpglover64@gmail.com> wrote:
> I should have clarified; I was asking about the difference. I can see how
> their meanings are different, but there's some subtlety in the first place
> that I feel I should have a better grasp of.
>
> Just to make sure I understood the example, I'll try to translate it to
> English:
>
> Someone avoiding doing x isn't a volitional entity doing x, but who causes
> someone else to do x.
>
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Luke Bergen <
lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Is this a puzzle or are you asking about the difference between zukte and
>> gasnu?
>>
>> In case the latter:
>> gasnu has x1 bringing about an event. mi gasnu lo nu lo fagri cu sisti ->
>> I put out the fire.
>> zukte has x1 doing a thing. mi zukte lo nu bajkla lo mi zdani -> I run to
>> my house.
>>
>> The trick I use to keep them straight is that if it feels weird to have the
>> x1 agent as one of the sumti in the x2 event, then it's probably gasnu. It
>> doesn't always work but it usually helps frame the question.
>>
>> I'm sure one of the jbocei will chime in shortly and give a more
>> technically precise distinction
>> On Jun 22, 2011 10:10 PM, ".arpis." <
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