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Re: [lojban] Is it a lie?



That feels like a slippery slope to me, though.

{.i do xu pu catra la .robin.}
{.i mi na catra ri to tu'a lo dakfu toi}

pe'i lojban allows many more of these unsaid loopholes than English, to the point where I'd consider it lying if you pathologically chose a {zo'e}, CA, CAhA, etc.

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 10:35 PM, Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
On Fri, Jul 01, 2011 at 06:35:49PM -0400, Luke Bergen wrote:
> So my question is, can an unsaid "zo'e" cause the bridi to be true
> OR false depending on what the context suggests of the zo'e?
> Clearly the kid is being dishonest but is he /lieing/?

No.  zo'e can never change the truth value of the sentence.

*But*, without specifying CA and CAhA, it can kind of mean whatever
you want.  :)

> It kind of reminds me of arguments I would have with my sister
> that went like "but you said that you would take out the trash if
> I walked the dog. -yeah, but I didn't say when"

It's exactly like that.  It's not false, it just makes you an
asshole.

-Robin

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