Oh, well that's good. I'm glad to hear that sa isn't just being completely thrown out. It seems like it has a lot of potential if it just gets a little more precisely defined such that it doesn't scare people off from using it
On Jul 3, 2011 4:32 PM, ".alyn.post." <
alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote:
> Speaking specifically of SA, I find myself of late in the position
> of defending the existing behavior (as largely expressed in the CLL
> with the "typical and obvious" clarifications from Magic Words on
> the wiki and other documents.
>
> I've been working on this aspect of the PEG grammar, and SA is
> indeed the most complex of the magic words. I'm not of the position
> that this complexity is somehow in a different class; that it is
> so much more complex than other magic words that it is worth
> not working on or redefining.
>
> I'm still working on this project, so don't have a fully formed
> opinion yet. I have understood the page mentioned by you to remove
> SA to focus on working on other parts of the grammar, no to
> fundamentally remove SA.
>
> -Alan
>
> On Sun, Jul 03, 2011 at 02:49:31PM -0400, Luke Bergen wrote:
>> When asked about "gije" someone replied with a link to the page for the
>> zasni gerna cenba vreji
>> ([1]
http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=zasni+gerna+cenba+vreji)
>> I don't see anything about "gije" on that page but it could very well be
>> that that construct being legal and having the same meaning as "gi'e" is
>> just a bi-product of one of the changes listed. Could someone go into a
>> little detail on which of the changes on that page makes "gije" behave
>> like "gi'e"?
>> Also, in reading through that page it seems sad that "sa" would just
>> disappear. Couldn't we just give it a meaning that's more specific? My
>> first thought is to redefine it to always mean "erase everything back to
>> the last '.i' ". So many times I want to say "ok, I screwed up this entire
>> sentence beyond hope... crap, su will kill the whole discourse but to use
>> si I'm going to have to spend a few minutes figuring out how many words
>> I've said." Then I usually end up just making a whole new bridi to say
>> "ignore that last convoluted mess. What I meant to say was: ".
>> A second thought; what if we redefine sa to mean "take the next word as a
>> token and erase backwards until you find that token". Thus "mi citka lo
>> cmalu cifnu .y. .oicai sa citka cikygau lo cmalu cifnu" results in the
>> much more savory "mi cigygau lo cmalu cifnu".
>> And finally, my last question. Should I have put these questions/comments
>> on the tiki page? I haven't done much with tiki/wiki so it'd be new to me
>> but I do want to discuss this stuff in the proper location.
>> ki'e mu'o mi'e la .cribe.
>>
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