Re: [lojban] sivni jikca

[Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>]

On Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 08:36:47PM -0300, Jorge Llambías wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 8:11 PM, Robin Lee Powell
> <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 07:54:44PM -0300, Jorge Llambías wrote:
> >>
> >> "za'u [pa] re'u" = "not for the first time" = "again".
> >
> > No, that's "for the more than oneth time"; it applies to *every*
> > time except the first.
> 
> Just like "again".
> 
> I tried on Monday, then again on Tuesday, and yet again on
> Wednesday.

That's in the past; I'm not talking about that case at all.  When
referring to future incidents, "again" strictly refers to the next
instance; see below.  At least in my dialect.

> > I want "nexth" not "greater than oneth".
> 
> "next-th" seems to put an additional focus on the preceding time,
> rather than just saying that the time in question is a repetition,
> not the original one.

Yes, exactly; I want "I'm going to try rebooting the computer
again".  That only refers to the immediately-next time I reboot it,
not the time after that, or the time after that.  I mean, yes, of
course I'm going to reboot the computer many times over its life,
but I'm only talking about the immediately next instance.

{ba za'u re'u} encodes some of this, but not enough for my taste; I
wish to specifically talk about the next, adjacent repitition; if
that's not "again", fine; I still want it.

> >> lo nu za'u re'u broda = lo krefu be lo nu broda bei li za'u
> >
> > .ie .i ku'i mi djica le balvi lamji krefu po'o .e nai ro krefu
> > be fi le za'u
> 
> "za'u re'u" only says that the time in question is not the first
> one. It is a single time, one other than the first one. 

*ponder*

Yes, you're right; sorry about that.

-Robin

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