On Jul 5, 2011 7:46 PM, "Robin Lee Powell" <
rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 08:36:47PM -0300, Jorge Llambías wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 8:11 PM, Robin Lee Powell
>> <
rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
>> > On Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 07:54:44PM -0300, Jorge Llambías wrote:
>> >>
>> >> "za'u [pa] re'u" = "not for the first time" = "again".
>> >
>> > No, that's "for the more than oneth time"; it applies to *every*
>> > time except the first.
>>
>> Just like "again".
>>
>> I tried on Monday, then again on Tuesday, and yet again on
>> Wednesday.
>
> That's in the past; I'm not talking about that case at all. When
> referring to future incidents, "again" strictly refers to the next
> instance; see below. At least in my dialect.
>
>> > I want "nexth" not "greater than oneth".
>>
>> "next-th" seems to put an additional focus on the preceding time,
>> rather than just saying that the time in question is a repetition,
>> not the original one.
>
> Yes, exactly; I want "I'm going to try rebooting the computer
> again". That only refers to the immediately-next time I reboot it,
> not the time after that, or the time after that. I mean, yes, of
> course I'm going to reboot the computer many times over its life,
> but I'm only talking about the immediately next instance.
>
> {ba za'u re'u} encodes some of this, but not enough for my taste; I
> wish to specifically talk about the next, adjacent repitition; if
> that's not "again", fine; I still want it.
>
>> >> lo nu za'u re'u broda = lo krefu be lo nu broda bei li za'u
>> >
>> > .ie .i ku'i mi djica le balvi lamji krefu po'o .e nai ro krefu
>> > be fi le za'u
>>
>> "za'u re'u" only says that the time in question is not the first
>> one. It is a single time, one other than the first one.
>
> *ponder*
>
> Yes, you're right; sorry about that.
>
> -Robin
>
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