mi bajra = "I run" OR "I am a runner".
Lojban doesn't have a passive and impassive voice such that one lojban sentence is intrinsically "I am a goer" while another is "I go".
On Jul 9, 2011 4:56 PM, "Jonathan Jones" <
eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
> I suppose not, however, {mi me lo klama be lo zarci} means "I am something
> that goes to a store", not "I go to a store", which is what {mi klama lo
> zarci} means.
>
> to pu benji ti fo lo mi me la.android. fonxa toi
> mu'o mi'e.aionys.
> On Jul 9, 2011 2:21 PM, "Luke Bergen" <
lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> But is it?
>>
>> In "lo broda be ko'a" we know from broda what "be ko'a" means. Does the
> "broda" of "lo broda" really lose all of it's x2/x3/xn values?
>>
>> On Jul 9, 2011 4:15 PM, "Jonathan Jones" <
eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > No, it means less.
>> >
>> > That's why I used integral/derivative. The integral of the derivative of
>> > 2x^2+3x+5 is 2x^2+3x+C. some information is lost in the process.
>> >
>> > me lo broda is "x1 is amongst those that are broda in aspect x2", which
> is
>> > less meaningful.
>> >
>> > On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Luke Bergen <
lukeabergen@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> >
>> >> It was an analogy. Don't take it as my cornerstone proof.
>> >>
>> >> If "me" means more than just the counterpart of "lo" then my bad. But
> I've
>> >> always thought of "me" as being as generic as "lo" is. Meh, if "me"
> means
>> >> more than the inverse of "lo" then I guess I've learned something
> today.
>> >> Though I'd like to hear it from vlasisku or one of the jbocrecevni
> first
>> >> On Jul 9, 2011 3:48 PM, "Jonathan Jones" <
eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > It's more akin to the integral of the derivative of a function, than
> it
>> >> is
>> >> > to the negative of the negative of a function.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Jonathan Jones <
eyeonus@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> me = "amongst those that are"
>> >> >> lo cadzu = "something that walks"
>> >> >>
>> >> >> mi me lo cadzu = "I am amongst those that are something which walks"
> =
>> >> "I
>> >> >> am a walker"
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Luke Bergen <
lukeabergen@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Not so sure I agree. "me" takes a sumti and turns it into a selbri.
>> >> "lo"
>> >> >>> takes a selbri and turns it into a sumti.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> -(-x) is not "a kind of negative-ish x". It's just positive x.
> Period
>> >> >>> On Jul 9, 2011 3:36 PM, "Jonathan Jones" <
eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>> > mi cadzu = "I walk"
>> >> >>> > mi me lo cadzu = "I am a walker (pedestrian)"
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 1:17 PM, ianek <
janek37@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> On Jul 9, 1:17 pm, tijlan <
jbotij...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>> >> > As for "Is it the general feeling that I'm the one who go?", I
>> >> would
>> >> >>> >> > more consider "ka'u pei mi klama" or precisely "xu kampu fa lo
> ka
>> >> >>> >> > sidbo fa lo nu mi me lo klama".
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> I think i saw a {me lo}!
>> >> >>> >> Yes, I did! I did saw a {me lo}!
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> How is {me lo broda} different in meaning from {broda}? (other
> than
>> >> >>> >> {me lo} sort of cuts x2, x3 etc.)
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> mu'o mi'e ianek
>> >> >>> >>
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