Re: [lojban] UI affecting the previous word

[Stela Selckiku <selckiku@gmail.com>]

On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Like, it feels weird to be reading something and then go "oops, there's a
> UI, go back and read that last word again but read it with a more 'hopeful'
> voice"

Well, theer's your problem, you're not thinking about it Lojbanically
enough.  In Lojban the basic bridi is the black lines and the
attitudinals are the crayons.  Right after you add each thing to the
bridi, you get a chance to say what you feel about it, how it relates
to what you're saying, or even to decide it wasn't right after all and
{si} it away.  It's part of the rhythm of making a bridi, lay down
some rational lines, then emote why you cared about those lines,
cycling back and forth.

There are some other things that are afterthought.  For instance
{sei}, which is sort of the grandfather of the UI.  And there's the
NOI of course.  I do see something in common in that bunch.  They all
add a new dimension to the bridi, relate it to the outside world.  You
make a basic bridi that relates a few things, but then you can hang a
bunch more relations everywhere on it, decorate it like a Christmas
tree, showing how it relates to you and the conversation with UI and
connecting it to other bridi with the same referents with NOI.

It's actually quite flexible in practice.  The fact that the cmavo
that construct the basic structure of the bridi, the articles and tags
and so forth, are all forethought means that when using afterthought
to decorate each construction you can either tag it at the end or you
can tag it right after its forethought constructor, with only subtle
differences in meaning.  That is, you can either say {lo .i'e gerna}
or {lo gerna .i'e} (or also {lo gerna ku .i'e}, which might be closer
to the first).  So making UI forethought would have made it less
flexible where you could put them.  Not that I know whether that was
the original motivation.  It is a rather ornate pattern.

mu'o mi'e la stela selckiku

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