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Re: [lojban] Klingon proverbs in Lojban

If I understand ze'ei correctly, then {zo'e ze'ei pa} means, basically, "unspecified number", or, in other words, "anything of selma'o PA", which means it includes numbers <=1, irrational numbers, imaginary numbers, etc. Since something must happen more than once to happen "again", {za'u xo'e re'u to zo xo'e selsmu lu zo'e ze'ei pa li'u toi} does not have the same meaning.

When something happens for the 2nd time {re re'u}, it is happening again.
When something happens for the 3rd time {ci re'u}, it is happening again.
When something happens for the 4th time {vo re'u}, it is happening again.
...
When something happens for the (x>1)th time {za'u [pa] re'u}, it is happening again.


On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com> wrote:
If the default number were to be made {xo'e} (which has been proposed to mean {zo'e ze'ei pa}, especially now that its current meaning is useless with xorlo in place) instead of {pa}, then {za'u re'u} would be implicitly {za'u xo'e re'u}, which would definitely work for "again", I think.

mu'o mi'e latros


On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 12:16 PM, MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com> wrote:


On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 7:47 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
On Friday 05 August 2011 01:43:04 MorphemeAddict wrote:
> gunta fa la veklarg
>
> I don't know how to say "again" ('x+1'th occurrence?).

za'ure'u - that's what it was in Alice.

Pierre
Does "za'u re'u" already contain the idea of 'time' or 'occurrence'? It seems to be just an ordinal number meaning 'further', 'additional'.
 
Does this work:
za'u re'u gunta fa la veklarg
 
I also found "krefu", but I don't know if/how "krefu" can be used to get the meaning of 'again'.
 
stevo

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