Re: [lojban] xorlo and masses

[John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com>]

Those all look fine to me (except for doubts about gunma).  In the last one, the 
family involved is simply lo ci prenu.




----- Original Message ----
From: tijlan <jbotijlan@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sat, August 13, 2011 3:44:59 AM
Subject: Re: [lojban] xorlo and masses

On 11 August 2011 11:11, Martin Bays <mbays@sdf.org> wrote:
> The first appears to indicate that masses are still first-class
> entities, such that e.g. in {lo tadni cu sruri le dinju}, the referents
> of {lo tadni} are masses of students, not individual students. In
> particular, it is reasonable for that {lo tadni} to have just one
> referent.

Does sruri1 have to be gunma1? Would the following be nonsense?

  lo se gunma cu sruri lo dinju
  Group-components are surrounding a building.

Furthermore:

  lo ci prenu cu se lanzu gi'e lanzu
  3 people are (distributively) family members and (collectively) a family.

  lo ci prenu cu se lanzu da gi'e lanzu de
  3 people are (distributively) members of family X and (collectively)
a family of members Y.

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