Re: [lojban] "gi" in place of "zi'e"

[Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu>]

On Sunday 14 August 2011 06:40:11 tijlan wrote:
> Multiple relative clauses (NOI) / phrases (GOI) can be joined up,
> officially by "zi'e":
>
>   da poi [ broda ] zi'e noi [ brode ]
>   da poi [ broda ] zi'e pe [ de ]
>
> I wonder if "gi" could substitute for that joiner:
>
>   da poi [ broda ] gi noi [ brode ]
>   da poi [ broda ] gi pe [ de ]

Semantically, this doesn't make sense. "zi'e" is a logical and of the zihek 
class; there is no logical or, nxor, one-side-irrelevant, or question in the 
class. "zi'o" is occupied by a pseudo-pronoun that deletes a place; the 
others are available. I think that they should be allocated to conjunctions, 
and for the nxor conjunction we can use "zi'oi". Then we need a word so that 
non-logical conjunctions can be used with relative clauses.

On the other hand, "zi'e" was coined before we started using PEG. It's likely 
that the word was deemed necessary because of the limitations of LALR1. PEG 
has no problem seeing that "noi" or "pe" follows, so one of the other classes 
of conjunctions should be usable in PEG. In LALR1 we could try requiring that 
the first relative clause or phrase be terminated, just as article phrases 
need to be terminated with "ku" before JOI.

Pierre
-- 
li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du
li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci

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