Re: [lojban] "gi" in place of "zi'e"

[Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>]

On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
> On Sunday 14 August 2011 06:40:11 tijlan wrote:
>> Multiple relative clauses (NOI) / phrases (GOI) can be joined up,
>> officially by "zi'e":
>>
>>   da poi [ broda ] zi'e noi [ brode ]
>>   da poi [ broda ] zi'e pe [ de ]
>>
>> I wonder if "gi" could substitute for that joiner:
>>
>>   da poi [ broda ] gi noi [ brode ]
>>   da poi [ broda ] gi pe [ de ]
>
> Semantically, this doesn't make sense. "zi'e" is a logical and of the zihek
> class; there is no logical or, nxor, one-side-irrelevant, or question in the
> class.

Originally there was the whole zihek series, but all except "zi'e"
were eliminated. (The new meaning of "zi'o" was a latter addition.)

> On the other hand, "zi'e" was coined before we started using PEG. It's likely
> that the word was deemed necessary because of the limitations of LALR1. PEG
> has no problem seeing that "noi" or "pe" follows, so one of the other classes
> of conjunctions should be usable in PEG.

Yes, "relative-clauses <- relative-clause (jek relative-clause)*"
makes more sense than "relative-clauses <- relative-clause (gik
relative-clause)*" since we could also have "gek relative-clause gik
relative-clause".

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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