Re: [lojban] Easy Lujvo

[Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com>]

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
> "rodrai" and "tolrodrai" need to be distinguished in the Lojban gloss.
I've removed tolrodrai. I guess it would just generate problems rather
than solivng them.

> Also "tol-" is pretty common by itself, as are "nal-" and "nor-".

yes but they would just expand to their standard interpretaiion, right?

{tolbo'e} -> {to'e brode}

It wouldn't add anything else (no change in the sumti place, for
example) Same goes for nal and nor.


> For morphologic reasons, "-mau" is sometimes replaced with "zma"
Right, I've added both.

> "ficbo'e" violates phonotactics.
Yes, I fixed this and the other wrong lujvo

> I'd put "frica" as a suffix. The first word I thought of beginning with "fic"
> is "ficysi'u". "re frica prenu" means "two different people (both different
> from someone else)", whereas "re ficysi'u prenu" means "two different people
> (different from each other)".

I'm not sure I understand your point here. Given that a lujvo, after
all, can be given the desired meaning, how would be ficybroda
different from brodyficra? I would prefer short rafsi where possible.

> "simxu" should be in the list.
Agreed.

> "jdika" should not be crossed out, it just doesn't have a short rafsi.
I would prefer lujvo made with short rafsi, It's unfortunate that
{jdika} hasn't one :(

> I don't remember seeing "-bra" or "-cma" added to arbitrary gismu, except
> in "plisycma", which was a joke. Usually they're prefixes.
I still prefer the suffix form, though. Could you elaborate on why the
prefix should be better?

> "rodcre" violates phonotactics.
Fixed

> I don't think "-cre" is common enough to include in the list.
Agreed

> I don't think "si'o-" is that common as a prefix. You may be thinking
> of "siz-", which is the rafsi of the cmavo "si'o". The suffix "-si'o" is
> fairly close to "-ism".

I like the idea of -ism!

I've made a new version a the same link:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7681579/easylujvo.pdf

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