Re: [lojban] Easy Lujvo

[Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com>]

A new version for your comments (i've also included some, hopefully,
explanatory examples)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7681579/easylujvo.pdf

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
>> "rodrai" and "tolrodrai" need to be distinguished in the Lojban gloss.
> I've removed tolrodrai. I guess it would just generate problems rather
> than solivng them.
>
>> Also "tol-" is pretty common by itself, as are "nal-" and "nor-".
>
> yes but they would just expand to their standard interpretaiion, right?
>
> {tolbo'e} -> {to'e brode}
>
> It wouldn't add anything else (no change in the sumti place, for
> example) Same goes for nal and nor.
>
>
>> For morphologic reasons, "-mau" is sometimes replaced with "zma"
> Right, I've added both.
>
>> "ficbo'e" violates phonotactics.
> Yes, I fixed this and the other wrong lujvo
>
>> I'd put "frica" as a suffix. The first word I thought of beginning with "fic"
>> is "ficysi'u". "re frica prenu" means "two different people (both different
>> from someone else)", whereas "re ficysi'u prenu" means "two different people
>> (different from each other)".
>
> I'm not sure I understand your point here. Given that a lujvo, after
> all, can be given the desired meaning, how would be ficybroda
> different from brodyficra? I would prefer short rafsi where possible.
>
>> "simxu" should be in the list.
> Agreed.
>
>> "jdika" should not be crossed out, it just doesn't have a short rafsi.
> I would prefer lujvo made with short rafsi, It's unfortunate that
> {jdika} hasn't one :(
>
>> I don't remember seeing "-bra" or "-cma" added to arbitrary gismu, except
>> in "plisycma", which was a joke. Usually they're prefixes.
> I still prefer the suffix form, though. Could you elaborate on why the
> prefix should be better?
>
>> "rodcre" violates phonotactics.
> Fixed
>
>> I don't think "-cre" is common enough to include in the list.
> Agreed
>
>> I don't think "si'o-" is that common as a prefix. You may be thinking
>> of "siz-", which is the rafsi of the cmavo "si'o". The suffix "-si'o" is
>> fairly close to "-ism".
>
> I like the idea of -ism!
>
> I've made a new version a the same link:
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7681579/easylujvo.pdf
>

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