Re: [lojban] paradox

[John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com>]

Meant to hurt the brain.  Try "the set of all sets that are not members of themselves is not a member of itself"  Of course, it generally isn't a set at all, but that just makes matters worse somehow.

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From: Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Fri, September 2, 2011 10:00:58 AM
Subject: Re: [lojban] paradox

ouch, my brain.

Let me see if I can pull this back to english.  "is it true that <the property of a thing not having itself as a property> is a property of itself" (angle-brackets added for clarity).....

that doesn't help, my brain still hurts.  It's a lot more of a brain teaser than "this sentence is a lie", that's for sure.  I like.

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Martin Bays <mbays@sdf.org> wrote:

Cute Russel for properties, which translates nicely to lojban:

xu lo ka ce'u ce'u na ckaji ku vo'a ckaji

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