Re: [lojban] Re: Should we have another mailing list for abstruse discussions?

[Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com>]

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 8:47 PM, djandus <jandew@gmail.com> wrote:
> So, two main issues. Messy threads:
> 2) could send the wrong message to new Lojbanists

Can I elaborate on that? And John sorry if I pick an example from one
of your emails, it's just the last one in the thread at the moment.

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 6:30 PM, John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrote:
> No classifiers because Lojban (in keeping with its SAE status) is rigorously
> count.  In fact, one ongoing problem in Lojban has been how to get mass terms in
> where they are "necessary" (so much, again for S-WH).  L-sets help a bit.  It's
> not clear that kinds do.

Imagine that I am a new Lojbanist and being, as I am, ignorant of
linguistics, I understand from what you write that:

A) Lojban has no classifiers! (whatever they are) because has a SAE status (??
B) Lojban is count!!! (whatever it means)
C) Lojban has a problem in expressing "masses" even where they are necessary!!
D) I need to know what L-sets are before being able to use masses in Lojban
E) Something is not clear about Lojban.

Frankly, this would be more than enough to make me turn away and
spread words that Lojban is impossible to use.
I'm sure it's my fault and I can't understand those high level concept
but at the same time, I'm sure that I *can* use Lojban (poorly, maybe,
but I'll learn eventually) and I'm sure that there's a way to say
anything that i want to say (and maybe more).

It may be too little and it also may be not really effective, but I'm
working hard to create things that could attract new people to lojban
(children books, comics, cheat sheets) as I think we lack the critical
mass we need. I'm really worried about the impact of mixing extremely
high level discussions with more mundane ones as, for me, they might
be misinterpreted as a sign that Lojban is a a poorly designed
language.

remod

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