Re: [lojban] Re: lojban and PR

[Matt Arnold <matt.mattarn@gmail.com>]

jongausib,

Most of the people who are centrally active in the language do not
want it to become a transnational language. I, for one, see no
benefit, and see a great deal of harm that would do.

However, I support improving the popularity of Lojban as a hobby. A
larger speaker base would lead to a lot more fun.

Muhammed:

Completely revamping Lojban means making a different language. They
did that to Loglan, and called it Lojban. You will avoid confusing
people, if you make up a word other than Lojban, and refer to your
project by that name. Currently you make it sound as if you want to
work with the existing language's supporters to undo their existing
language, which is unlikely.

-Eppcott


On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 7:31 PM, .arpis. <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com> wrote:
> However a language can be defined in terms of itself with the addition of
> some real-world knowledge, or almost entirely in terms of itself.
>
> I would like to see {mu'a} in the definition of {xunre} things like, "one of
> the three primary colors in the additive model, the other two being {pelxu}
> and {crino}", "the color of an iconic rose", "the color of blood", "a
> color", {mu'a cu'i}.
>
> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
>>
>> On Sunday 23 October 2011 13:11:31 .arpis. wrote:
>> > The language is not finalized yet (as evidenced by the {ji'i} 200
>> > discussion about {zo'e}).
>>
>> Most of that discussion is incomprehensible to me, and probably to most
>> Lojbanists.
>>
>> > The language is not self-hosting (many definitions of words, especially
>> > gismu, rely on another language, often English, to be understood)
>>
>> A language can never be exactly defined in terms of itself, so that's
>> generally not a problem. I have no problem with "rozgu" or "djacu"
>> or "lanme". I do have a problem with "jbari", as it's defined in terms of
>> English "berry", which is polysemous. One definition includes strawberries
>> and raspberries and blueberries but excludes tomatoes and oranges; the
>> other
>> does the reverse.
>>
>> Pierre
>> --
>> .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do
>> .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga
>> .icu'u la ma'atman.
>>
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