Re: [lojban] baby words: "help"

[Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>]

On Sun, Nov 06, 2011 at 11:49:13AM +0100, Arnt Richard Johansen
wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 05, 2011 at 10:43:04PM -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> > 
> > "Sleeping helps you grow strong".  I'm sure there's an obvious
> > gismu here, but I'm missing it.
> 
> I checked the definition of {sidju}:
> 
> x1 helps/assists/aids object/person x2 do/achieve/maintain
> event/activity x3.
> 
> I've been assuming that x1 needs to be a person, but having an
> event in the x1 seems to be perfectly fine. 

I hate place types so very much.  Some day I want to spend some time
thinking about a system for dropping them.  :P

I've added a note to
http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Section%3A+gismu+Issues , since I
happen to have it up anyway.

> Another possibility might be {to'e zunti} but maybe that goes
> beyond kiddie talk:
> 
> x1 (evt./state) interferes with/hinders/disrupts x2
> (evt./state/process) due to quality x3 (ka).

Interesting.  So that's like "supports" in the way that {sarji}
isn't.  :)

-Robin

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