Re: [lojban] Lions and levels and the like

["John E. Clifford" <kali9putra@yahoo.com>]

Well, I am coming back to that view (if I ever left it).  There is something which was invented by Shockley et al and now appears all over, namely transistors, the whole bunch of them, genetically .(to force a metaphor) in the first case, collectively in the other ( and there may bbe more ways to come, possibly to the point where this position no longer has simplicity going for it).

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On Nov 14, 2011, at 4:35 PM, Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 6:16 PM, John E. Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>  Kinds don't seem to be the sort of
>> things that ruin gardens, though their exemplars may.  The factual
>> situation, as far as transistors, etc. are concerned, is about genealogy,
>> all transistors descend from something invented by Shockley.  But that is at
>> least as hard to express as types, so I wait a while on it.
> 
> The problem with that take is the usual one, you cannot say things
> like "transistors, which were invented by Shockley (although not
> quite, according to Wikipedia), are found today in practically all
> electronic devices" if you don't allow that there is something both
> invented by Shockley and found today in practically all electronic
> devices.
> 
> I liked it better when you were of the opinion that the way in which
> they were invented by Shockley may be different from the way in which
> they are found all over, but that either way they are transistors, or
> "the transistor" (as in English).
> 
> mu'o mi'e xorxes
> 
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