Re: [lojban] semantic parser - tersmu-0.1rc1

[And Rosta <and.rosta@gmail.com>]

Jorge Llambías, On 26/11/2011 14:02:
> The non-restrictiveness of "noi" is what makes it independent of the
> main clause.  

I think that's not so. In "every little baby", "little" is nonrestrictive but not independent of the clause. What makes "noi" and English "non-restrictive relative clauses" -- or "supplementary relative clauses" in the terminology of Huddleston and Pullum, or "incidental relative clauses" in the termonology of Lojban -- independent of the containing clause is the supplementarity/incidentality, which I think should be modelled logically as an independent illocutionary operator. For example "Is Cardiff, which is the capital of Wales, polluted?" is, logically, "I-HEREBY-ASK whether Cardiff is polluted & I-HEREBY-ASSERT-INCIDENTALLY that Cardiff is the capital of Wales".

Jorge Llambías, On 26/11/2011 17:35:
> Assuming
>
> (1) le broda = zo'e noi mi ke'a do skicu lo ka broda
>
> (2) ko'a voi broda = ko'a noi mi ke'a do skicu lo ka broda

I think they're both wrong. The "noi" would introduce an illocutionary element I-HEREBY-ASSERT-INCIDENTALLY, that is not present in "le broda = ko'a voi broda". Rather, "le broda = ko'a voi broda" involve an illocutionary element DEI-KE'A-DO-SKICU, "I-HEREBY-NONVERIDICALLY-SAY".


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