Re: [lojban] nice sound for lojban "r"

[Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu>]

On Monday 09 January 2012 07:37:21 And Rosta wrote:
> Phonologically different pronunciation among native speakers is dialect
> difference.
>
> On Jan 9, 2012 11:17 AM, "Jonathan Jones" <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Differing pronunciation is "accent", not dialect.

To clarify the difference with some examples:

In Castile, the letters "z" and "s" are pronounced differently. In Andaluz and 
most or all of Hispanic America, they are pronounced the same. This is an 
accent difference; it affects all words with "z", "ce", or "ci" in them. (Use 
of "vosotros"/"vos"/"ustedes" and words used in one place but not others are 
dialect differences.)

In American English and in British English, the phoneme /u/ is distinguished 
from the diphthong /au/. In both dialects, "rout" and "router" (woodworking 
tool) are pronounced with /au/. In America, "route" and "router" (networking 
tool) are pronounced with /au/, whereas they are pronounced with /u/ in 
England (from what I know; I've never been there). This is a phonologically 
different pronunciation of a same word, thus a dialect difference. I, though 
American, follow the British pronunciation of this word, being a son of a 
French immigrant; this is an idiolect difference.

Pierre
-- 
li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa

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