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Re: [lojban] masknonji



On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 2:02 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
>  By my rules and by vlatai
> it is, but I'm not sure about xorxes's rules, because the "n" could be
> syllabic.

Here's a recap on my views on Lojban syllables:

There are 64 valid consonantal syllables:

bl cl dl fl gl jl kl ml nl pl rl sl tl vl xl zl
bm cm dm fm gm jm km lm nm pm rm sm tm vm xm zm
bn cn dn fn gn jn kn ln mn pn rn sn tn vn xn zn
br cr dr fr gr jr kr lr mr nr pr sr tr vr xr zr

There are (2 + 36 + 4 + 97) x 10 x 18 = 25020 valid vocalic syllables.

Each vocalic syllable consists of onset + nucleus + coda.

There are 18 codas: b, c, d, f, g, j, k, l, m, n, p, r, s, t v, x, z and empty.
There are 10 nuclei: a, e, i, o, u, ai, au, ei, oi, y
There are 139 onsets, which we can divide into 4 groups:

2 special onsets: . and '
(These are special in that . can only occur at the beginning of a
word, and ' can only occur in the middle of a word, so in a sense they
are complementary and could eventually be considered the same onset
expressed differently in different contexts.)

36 approximant onsets:
i, bi, ci, di, fi, gi, ji, ki, li, mi, ni, pi, ri, si, ti, vi, xi, zi
u, bu, cu, du, fu, ju, ku, lu, mu, nu, pu, ru, su, tu, vu, xu, zu

4 affricate onsets: dj, dz, tc, ts

97 ordinary onsets, consisting of 1, 2 or 3 consonants each taken in
order from the following groups:
[c, j, s, z] [b, d, f, g, k, m, n, p, t, v, x] [l, r]

with the following constraints:
- a voiced consonant from the first group cannot be followed by an
unvoiced one from the second, and viceversa.
- s, c cannot be followed by x
- j, z cannot be followed by n or l
- d, t cannot be followed by l
- n cannot be followed by l, r

So in all I have 25020 vocalic  + 64 consonantal = 25084 valid syllables.

This number increases considerably if we allow double-consonant codas.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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