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Re: [lojban] Using Lojban in 'very' defined contexts (eg. maths)
From my meager experience, the lojban system is nicer than English for
thinking of _numbers_, as long as _quantity_ doesn't matter. That's
okay, though, because any digit based system is poor at expressing
quantity at scale.
ba zu ju'o cu'i I would like to practice using lojban numbers for a
memory system (inspired by
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mnemonic_major_system) and practice
using them for arithmetic.
On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 9:46 AM, MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com> wrote:
> This has sort of come up before. I agree that bare numerals seem harder to
> use than numbers that mark the value at each place. When I was in the army
> (too few years ago) a man once directed us in physical training exercises
> saying "one five" for 15. I found it irritating.
> What do the accomplished speakers here think?
>
> stevo
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Escape Landsome <escaaape@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> This is a good question.
>>
>> I wonder if "pa-ci-re" is an efficient way to say "132". It may be
>> good for a computer, which "understands" the things in a syntactic
>> way, but I would say that humans prefer the semantic-pragmatic way
>> which is found in "one-hundred, three-tens, two-units", (even if tens
>> is said "-ty" and units is implicit), because there's the positional
>> meaning of 1 that means "one hundred" imported in the language.
>>
>> People tend to think pragmatically/semantically, not only along
>> syntax, as, perhaps, Lojban does a little too much ?
>>
>> 2012/3/2, M.Nael <muhammad.nael@gmail.com>:
>> > Would this work?
>> > My native language is Arabic yet I've studied Mathematics since age 3 in
>> > English... Arabic has the disadvantage of having 'too-many syllables' as
>> > opposed to (usually) 1-2 in English.
>> > This is most visible in numbers. Arabic 'One' is 'wa?id' | 'Two' is
>> > 'i0na:n' | 'Three' is '0la:0ah' and so on.
>> > Even with English being more efficient here (and I've grown to use its
>> > number-words in mental calculation), I still find myself saying
>> > 'three-thousand bla-bla-hundred), ...etc. Lojban number-words should
>> > make
>> > up for this, thus:
>> > My question is: how much would training for 'pa-ci-re' instead of
>> > 'one-hundred, thirty-two' etc... be beneficial for my mental
>> > calculations?
>> > And if I decided to extend this to the whole of my mathematical
>> > thinking?
>> > Has anyone tried to use *just* the maths (and generally science-part) of
>> > Lojban?
>> >
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