Re: [lojban] Re: Rhetoric and Oratory, "the fruit of Arabic"

[Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com>]

  Okay, I give up.  How did you get that from the original English,
Muhammad?  Or did Buroq send you the Arabic version in private email?
(or perhaps it appeared in a separate thread that I haven't read yet).
             --gejyspa

On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Muhammad an-Nuqrashi
<muhammad.nael@gmail.com> wrote:
>> coi
>> Young people,
>>  Rhetoric: the using of all grammars in speech, even if it optional,
>> almost, "you can stand on the logic"
>>  Eloquence: to use the most appropriate synonym in every place in
>> speech.
>> The  both is the magnificence of speech and remove the ambiguity for
>> the listener completely.
>>  This is advisable for the speakers to lojban.
>
>
> Welcome,
> Youth,
> To speak rhetorically is to use the grammar and vocabulary of the language
> to the full extent; you don't only choose the fastest way to say something
> that could be clearer when said in longer phrases, and you don't do the
> opposite when ambiguity is negligible enough for human readers. You
> "overcome" logic by using the "invisible logic," aka common-sense and
> relying on that the reader should have it.
> It isn't advisable to cherish brevity over clearness. Mega-words that have
> many meanings of one concept in a language like Lojban (relying on lujvo's
> for other meanings) are usually a bad idea as most people tend to hold
> themselves onto what the dictionary offers.
> This is advisable for Lojban speakers.
>
> And I'm out for today!
>
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