Re: [lojban] Baby words: "be careful of X"

["Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG" <lojbab@lojban.org>]

Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> On Wed, May 02, 2012 at 06:55:18PM -0400, Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG wrote:
>
> > Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> >
> > > I don't see a good way to do this as a bridi.  {kajde} isn't use,
> > > it's mention; that is, {kajde} isn't warning someone, it's talking
> > > about someone having been warned.  I don't see anything else good.
> > >
> > > Ideas?
> >
> > The problem seems to be that people are insisting on translating
> > "Be careful" as an imperative based on "careful".  That is English
> > idiom.  I am pretty sure that not all languages express warnings
> > in terms of "being careful".
> >
> > You can indeed use kajde, just not as an imperative.  Statements
> > about events are not necessarily in the past tense.
> >
> > mi kajde do lenu ...
> > (which event you can mark with pu'o to warn of an impending catastrophe).
>
>
> That exactly doesn't work, though; look at kajde.
>
>   x1 (event/experience) warns/cautions x2 (person) of/about danger x3 (event/state/property).

Good catch.

> {kajde} describes that something happened/happens that warns someone
> about a danger.  It is the mention, not the use.  tu'a/jai doesn't
> fix this; 

I'm not sure why not.  After seeing the place structure, I would just 
modify my response to "tu'a mi kajde ..."
"Something I do warns you about ..."

(Though I'll admit, I'm getting a bit rusty on such complexities.)

lojbab

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