Re: [lojban] bugs in jbovlaste

[Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>]

On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 4:21 AM, gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:37:48 PM UTC+4, ianek wrote:

Fine, I've just added aionys' complaints about familial gismu, and also xorxes' proposed definition of xruti. If anynone knows about other proposed changes, please check whether they're there and if not, add them.

What's that with {xruti}? It's agentive, don't touch it!

Let's create another experimental gismu with the definition {x1 (agent) returns to origin/earlier state x3 from x4} or possibly with another order of sumti.

But {xruti} must retain the meaning.
OTHERWISE WE'LL LOSE COMPATIBILITY WITH OLDER TEXTS.

First, this is not the place for this. If you'll notice the topic of this thread is "bugs in jbovlaste".

Second, you are over-reacting. Also, it is my personal opinion that, especially in the case of xruti, 
breaking older text is worth not having a broken place structure.

Third, that page is about issues, as in things we have found that need to be reviewed.

Fourth, you are taking the creation a new gismu entirely too lightly. Of all the possible changes to our language, a new gismu is the absolute /least/ likely to happen. In fact, the /only/ way a new gismu would be considered that I know of is in the case that we determine that some portion of the semantic space can not be represented by any combination of currently existant valsi, i.e. gismu, tanru, or lujvo, with za'uno cmavo intermigled, or alternately, is a concept of such widespread use as to merit it. For example, had Lojban been invented during the colonization of the Americas, it would obviously not have included "skami", as the very concept basically didn't exist at the time, but it would have since been added, considering both that it covers previously semantic space and is an extremely important part of modern existence.

In short, we do /not/ make new gismu unless it is /absolutely/ necessary.

-- 
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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