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Re: [lojban] Lojban wall of complexity (beginner thoughts)
Thank you for your answer!
Le mercredi 25 juillet 2012 04:44:28 UTC+2, Pierre Abbat a écrit :There is a lojban-fr mailing list you may be interested in. There's also a
recording somewhere of several of us at last year's jbonunsla singing "ni'o
le bi'u cmalu bloti ze'epu naku xe klama". We weren't sure what to do
with "Ohé matelot navigue sur les flots", though.
I was aware of the French mailing list but I think there is less people looking at it than the English one (so less potential answers to my questions, either by asking directly or by googling archives). By the way, I've only managed to get the archive (http://mail.lojban.org/lists/lojban-fr/) that stops in late 2011 with some messages talking about resurrecting the list. So what is its status? Is is still active?
This computer-science term "class" is definitely not "klesi". A possible word
for the concept is "gaurtarmi", "a form of instances that do things". Methods
and members could be then gaurpau fa'u cadypau. "lo gaurtarmi cu cerda fi lo
drata gaurtarmi" sounds fine to me. You can indicate a definition
with "ca'edai" (it's a definition, but I didn't define it).
Thanks for the help. I understand the word you suggest and the example you give. In a non artificial language I would have looked in a dictionary and even with a low level in the language I could have build a clumsy but hopefully understandable sentence. Here you made the word for me. To your mind, is a very good knowledge of the grammar and basis words (gismo and cmavo) enough to be able to build new words as you did or are only linguists have the experience and intuition to do this? I don't know whether you are a linguist, I just assume you are, as founders of lojban.
Why klesi could not be used, maybe mixed with skami in an other tanru, or simply with x2 always dropped and x3 giving directly the definition as in "Point is a class with 2 numbers, coordinate x and coordinate y"? Point would klesi1, 2 numbers, coordinate x and coordinate y, klesi3. I am not trying to convince you klesi is the right word, I'd like to understand why you dismissed it. Another idea would be the lojban meaning "a form of instances containing things", highlighting the members instead of the methods as your definition does.
If we imagine that a world for "class" is eventually in the "official dictionary" of lojban in 2050, when lojban is spoken by millions of people (let's dream a bit...), would it be the result of specialist discussions during several years? or the people writing the most on the subject kind-of imposing their choice?
Sincerely,
Bruno
Pierre
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