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Re: [lojban] Two new gismu, "stomach" and "back of body". And a proposal for an updated method of generating gismu.
On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 7:33:46 PM UTC+4, Pierre Abbat wrote:On Tuesday 21 August 2012 11:07:36 la gleki wrote:
> For "stomach" we get
> cmn vei 0.253388 eng beli 0.22019 spa bientre 0.097425 ara muada
> 0.092683 hin pet 0.087398 ben pet 0.058401 rus jeludyk 0.053388 por
> bariga 0.050271 jap xara 0.033198 pun pet 0.028692 deu magen 0.028184
> fra vontr 0.025474
> With first 4 languages it outputs
> *vreli velti venli velbi* 0.691286 (rating) With all 12 languages it
> outputs *vetli* 0.535
> (rating)
>
>
> I'd choose {vetli} as it's similar to Chinese vei, English belly, Indian
> "pet" and Romance "ventr-"
I would use neither "belly" nor "vientre", as they mean "betfu" which we
already have. The Spanish for "stomach" is "estómago". "slamycanti" was
proposed some years ago.
Robin asked me to add them to jvs but I see now he was too hasty.
> For "back of human body" we get
> cmn beiji 0.253388 eng bak 0.22019 spa espalda 0.097425 ara vyxra
> 0.092683 hin pic 0.087398 ben pic 0.058401 rus spin 0.053388 por kostas
> 0.050271 jap se 0.033198 pun pic 0.028692 deu riuk 0.028184 fra dos
> 0.025474
> Top score is bekpi bajdi 0.50684 4 langs bekpi 0.4697 12 langs
> I'd choose {bekpi} which reminds me of Chinese bei, English back, Indian
> pic and Russian sPIna.
I agree that we need a word to distinguish back, the dorsal side of an animal,
from back, the area behind something. They are the same side for a human, but
not for most vertebrates. This word sounds good. Also, I think we need a word
for the ventral side of an animal.
Pedantically, the upper back is "espalda" (the French cognate
means "shoulder", which is also the first sense in Velázquez), the lower
is "lomo", and the whole thing is "dorso", but I've heard people call the
whole back "espalda" and not know the word "dorso". Also the "s" is silent in
French "dos".
Pierre
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