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Re: [lojban] Scales vocabulary construction





On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 5:09 AM, Felipe Gonçalves Assis <felipeg.assis@gmail.com> wrote:
coi

In what follows, scales are certain colections of properties (in the
sense of CLL 15.5).
Examples of scales are

 1. colour properties, e.g. {lo ka blanu}
 2. direction relations, e.g. {lo ka gapru}
 3. animal/plant types, e.g. {lo ka mlatu}
 4. family relations, e.g. {lo ka mamta}
 5. compass directions, e.g. {lo ka berti}
 6. genders, e.g. {lo ka fetsi}

The scale of colours is part of the definition of {skari}, which
requires a colour as its x2.
Similarly, {farna} defines the scale of directions (according to one
interpretation).

brivla for talking about a recognized scale is a relevant vocabulary
demand. Using
existent vocabulary, we can easily and precisely ask what colour an
object is, or about
the direction from one point to another. However, in order to talk
about family relations,
compass directions, or non-binary genders, we need some circumlocutions.

Talk about these abstract scales is greatly simplified when we have a
brivla with a
definition like
  "x1 has property x2 of scale S." or
  "x1 and x2 are related by relation x3 of scale T.", etc.

I ask if there are any general guidelines we could follow in coining
this kind of brivla,
particularly when the only practical description of the scale is a
list of examples.

  I guess I'm kind of missing something here.  How is the first substantially different from "x1 ckaji x2 ci'u S" or "zi'o merli x2 be kai x1 zo'e S, etc?
                 --gejyspa

 
 

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