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Re: [lojban] Re: lo selsanga pe la'o dy. Bodo Wartke .dy zi'e po'u la'o dy. Liebeslied .dy



Am 14.09.2012 21:32, schrieb Michael Turniansky:
Just a minor grammatical point about your letter, van.. You cannot cluster a cmavo together with another if it starts with a vowel (as you have done below with *"i.iua" and *".iuisai" without putting a pause (period or space in written lojban) before it. So that should be either ".i uisai" or ".i.uisai"

Without wanting to re-open this debate from a while ago, I still don't like seeing this kind of information being spread. Neither a pause nor a period nor a space is needed in written or spoken Lojban. ".iua" unambiguously fragments into .i ua. I'd repeat myself and say that ua is a CV, but I don't want to get falsely flamed again for saying the truth. For completeness sake however, I should add that there are no words that begin with a (phonetic) vowel in Lojban, so the rule you formulated above just never applies. What I'm saying might seem wrong or alien to you, but I've done enough research and have thought about this topic at length. You are free to reject it, of course. If you'd like to discuss this in more depth (since it probably makes no sense to you here without the proper context), feel free to open a new thread. I'd like to mention that because you are by far not the only one who gets confused about Lojban's "denpa bu", I created a slightly altered way of writing lojban some time ago which makes it impossible to mispronounce things and which always clearly indicates what's going on phonologically/morphologically (the goal being actual full isomorphism within the limits of a simple latin alphabet using only a few diacritics). Some people like it, some don't. Some like it but don't use it, others actually have adopted it. It does help people though to not be confused about Lojban's phonology.
Bottomline, you really don't need a "denpa bu" in the sentence in question.

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

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pilno zo le xu .i lo dei bangu cu se cmene zo lojbo .e nai zo lejbo

doị mèlbi mlenì'u
   .i do càtlu ki'u
ma fe la xàmpre ŭu
   .i do tìnsa càrmi
gi'e sìrji se tàrmi
   .i taị bo pu cìtka lo gràna ku

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