Re: [lojban] Lujvo for 'Cryonics'?

On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 10:02 AM, .arpis. <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com> wrote:

But lojban, unlike English, has a culture of not using more specific a word than necessary to get meaning across, and since I expect that if, suddenly, a company emerged that depended on relativistic speeds to solve the same problem that modern cryonics does, I don't expect the words used to describe the processes would be different (people are lazy and don't care about details), but suddenly, cold is not just incidental but incorrect.

But the company that relied on relativistic speed (or anything else besides cold) would use a different word to disociate itself from the cryogenics (or cryonics) people and to provide a unique/better handle for people to use when referring to the new process.

stevo

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 3:28 PM, MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 1:07 PM, .arpis. <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com> wrote:

How about {renvi}?

{morsi renvi saske} -> "death survival science" seems to capture the key meanings; cold and body are incidental.

{mrore'iske}

I don't think cold is incidental to cryonics; the whole word (in English) is based on the idea of cold. For a more general term of life extension or revival, {mrore'iske} is fine, but for cryonics in particular there should be some indication of the use of low temperatures.

stevo

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 11:05 AM, MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com> wrote:

These terms may be helpful:

cold = lenku (lek)

body = xadni (xad)

science = saske (ske)

live = jmive (miv ji'e)

I couldn't find a gismu for 'save', 'preserve', 'keep' (in the required sense), 'maintain'.

"cold-body-science" - lekyxadyske

stevo

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 10:46 AM, DataPacRat <datapacrat@gmail.com> wrote:

In a discussion on another mailing list, the topic of Lojban has come
up in passing; and, as the closest thing on that list to an expert
(which isn't all that close), I was asked what the Lojban for three
phrases was: "Watch out for the bus", "Call an ambulance", and "Call
his cryonics company".

I can figure out the first two with only moderate effort (eg, "ckape!
.i sorprema'e!" sounds about right); but the third involves a concept
that I haven't found any existing translation for, and I haven't
managed to figure out a decent lujvo for. It's even trickier if I try
to come up with a word which would be as accurate as possible to the
beliefs of those who actually have signed up for cryonics with a hope
of a non-zero chance of eventual revival (Whether or not that belief
is justified isn't my concern at the moment, merely trying to properly
express it.), which makes mrori'i seem less appropriate to use as an
inspiration.

Might you be able to offer any suggestions?

Thank you for your time,
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