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Re: [lojban] What place of nesting bridi {ce'u} refers to?



On Monday, October 1, 2012 1:35:54 AM UTC+4, tsani wrote:
It'd be nice if the gimste mentioned to which higher-level sumti places the ce'u referred to, much like guaspi's gimste, but that isn't the case.

On 30 September 2012 00:56, la gleki <gleki.is...@gmail.com> wrote:
http://dag.github.com/cll/7/11/



11.1)  le ka ce'u gleki
       the property-of (X being-happy)
       the property of being happy
       happiness
and
11.2)  le ka gleki ce'u
       the property-of (being-happy about-X)
       the property of being that which someone is happy about


These examples are pretty clear. No ambiguity. Now let's open Chapter 11.4
http://dag.github.com/cll/11/4/

4.9)   la djan. cu zmadu la djordj. le ka mi prami ce'u
       John exceeds George in-the property-of (I love X).


This is something very strange.
Let's imagine that I'm a boy and I meet a girl. I tell her

{do melbi mi lo ka ce'u clani}
 
Does {ce'u} refer to {do} or {mi}?


It definitely refers to melbi1. If x3 is the aspect in which x1 is beautiful, it's pretty clear that it's the x1 that is referred to by the argument place in clani.


How do you know that? Just a common sense? If so it's a real problem. Someone is developing lojban in terms of NLP but your answers clearly show that currently it's impossible.
Don't you think that we should mark all gismu that have such "problems"?



.i mi'e la tsani mu'o

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