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Re: [lojban] Can the inconsistency with {seisa'a ... se'u} be overrriden?





On Monday, October 15, 2012 9:46:59 PM UTC+4, selpa'i wrote:
Am 15.10.2012 19:21, schrieb la gleki:
>
>
> On Monday, October 15, 2012 8:28:01 PM UTC+4, selpa'i wrote:
>
>     Am 15.10.2012 18:02, schrieb la gleki:
>      >
>      > Does it mean then that
>      >
>      > /do sei mi prami do se'u klama la .landyn./
>      > and
>      > /do klama la .landyn. sei mi prami do se'u/
>      >
>      > mean the same?
>
>     You mean "sei mi do prami [se'u]". SEI closes automatically once it
>     sees
>     a completed selbri.
>     I would say they mean the same, yes.
>
>
> so sei...se'u always refers to the whole bridi.
> OK. Now how can I express UI using brivla?
> using {to'i}? or what?

Any description of emotions that uses things other than UI is merely an
approximation. Saying "I'm happy" is not the same thing as smiling for
example. You can use SEI to create ad-hoc "UI" though, just like you
wanted. It's just that "ui" and "sei mi gleki" aren't exactly identical,
the latter is at most a means of paraphrasing an emotion.

Nevertheless, is it possible to distinguish between

la .alis. .ui  co'a prami la .bab.
vs.
la .alis. co'a prami la .bab. .ui  

using sei ...se'u?



mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

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