Re: [lojban] The fire's hotness

[Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com>]

Although I don't fully follow what it is you're trying to get at here, it's generally agreed upon that using ka that way is no good. In general use, ka is used only for "pure functions" -- properties and not qualitites, which is how the CLL describes ka.

That being said, I'd just use {nu}, which I believe represents an particular instance of a predication, which is just a property with the ce'u-places filled in:

{lo nu lo fagri cu glare cu pluka mi}

or perhaps,

{lo nu seli'i lo fagri cu glare cu pluka mi}

We can say it more poetically with

{.i mi selpu'a co seli'i fagri glare}

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o

On 24 October 2012 14:01, Mike S. <maikxlx@gmail.com> wrote:

Given:

.i lo se mupli be lo vi fagri be'o je ka glare cu pluka mi

"The instantiated-by-this-fire property-of-being-hot is pleasant to me."
= "This fire's hotness is pleasant to me."

I am trying to encode what are sometimes called "tropes", properties as they are instantiated in particular cases.  Does the Lojban capture that the way I think it does?

Is there any way to shorten this _expression_ without losing the logical form?

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