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[lojban] Re: A new Lojbanic wiki (LMW). On the threshold of the 25th anniversary of Lojban
On Monday, November 12, 2012 10:41:38 PM UTC+9, la gleki wrote:
Does this mean we're officially moving to MediaWiki?
No!
Is it ok to migrate an entire page from TikiWiki, leaving a "This page has moved to ..." message there?
No! Copy them, don't move them for now. Don't touch the old wiki for now.
The answer is pretty simple. If we show that we are active and able to improve the quality of lojbanic wiki
then I'm sure we will officially move. What lojbanistan consists of if not of active jbopre?
OK, I haven't touched anything yet :)
But if we appear to be lazy, inactive then the answer is "do not rock the boat! Leave everything as it is!"
However, as at least two active people (lindar and J Camaron) were dissapointed with the current wiki
I wanna urge you to develop this wiki so that normal people, not only geeks can start styudying and enjoying this language.
I'm going to work on the Community Portal page so that it gives a nice overview of
what you can do to help and where you can get help.
P.S. If anybody can theoretically migrate the whole Twiki to Mediawiki using some script please inform me.
Theoretically it's possible.
1. Obtain a dump file of the Twiki: it should be at [1], but the page just says "file not found"
2. Convert it to a format that MediaWiki understands: there is a script by someone at [2]
3. Import the result to MediaWiki: note that this may slow down vrici
I can test the process with a MediaWiki on my server, if I can get my hands on the Twiki dump.
Also it's possible to apply small transformations to each page like assigning categories.
[1]: http://lojban.org/tiki/dump/new.tar
[2]: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:TikiWiki_Conversion
Pages for geeks can always be moved under "Discussions" tab as it is accepted in Wikipedia. (Twiki lacks this feature).
I think discussions found in Twiki should stay there. Reasons:
* This is my personal opinion but wiki is ill-suited for discussions and conversations.
* We're making a fresh start, so why not keep it clean?
* The Discussion tab in Wikipedia/MediaWiki is for discussions *about* the main page it corresponds to.
* Old discussions in Twiki do not have a corresponding page that they're talking about.
mu'o
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