[lojban] Re: A new Lojbanic wiki (LMW). On the threshold of the 25th anniversary of Lojban

On Tuesday, November 6, 2012 2:49:10 PM UTC+9, la gleki wrote:

The wiki has moved to http://mw.lojban.org/

On Monday, November 5, 2012 5:22:48 PM UTC+4, la gleki wrote:
Now Mediawiki has full support for localising any given page to another language. The solution is not ideal, it uses a simple template (anyway, ki'ecai .brendyn. for letting know about about this simplest tool)

http://vrici.lojban.org/~gleki/mw/index.php/Template:Ralju

If you think the template can be made a bit nicer plase let me know.
Anyway, now nothing can stop us from starting to really work on this wiki.

On Thursday, October 4, 2012 11:59:32 AM UTC+4, la gleki wrote:

On Saturday, September 29, 2012 4:57:37 PM UTC+4, la gleki wrote:

On Saturday, September 29, 2012 12:15:54 PM UTC+4, Marica Odagaki wrote:
.uisai I'm all for adopting MediaWiki as the official wiki.

> Please, develop the wiki, edit it yourself. Tell me what you need. Let's make it better than the old one. Together.

I have a few suggestions to make this project better yet:

A. Set short-term goals.
- 1. Create overview pages targeted at newcomers/learning & teaching/etc.
- 2. Go over all the TikiWiki pages and migrate them where necessary.
Last time I checked, there are 2357 of them.

B. Broadly categorize pages.
- About: introduction to the language and organizations
- Guides: learning materials, faq
- Documentation: grammar documentation/dictionary/baseline definition
- Writings: Lojbanic writings/multimedia/games
- Encyclopedia of related topics
- News
- Projects
- Participation guides
- People
- Proposals

(Discussions should happen in the "Talk" side of the page.)

These are gleaned from a wiki pages categorization project
I'd been tackling by myself:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqPDUjCrM_cfdDI5NzBIMzhCRHZJWGF2Tzl4R245N3c

Giving the wiki a minimum structure will help grow it without falling into a chaotic state.

C. Define what goes into the wiki, and state it in the wiki.
- All of the above (in B.)
- Questions should be asked in the mailing-list first.

Do these sound all good?

go'isai

Especially "minimum structure". I don't want lojban.org/tiki to be shut down.

AND NOW IMPORTANT MESSAGE.
Robin INSTALLED MEDIAWIKI ON HIS SERVER. THE CURRENT ADDRESS IS
http://vrici.lojban.org/~gleki/mw/index.php/ralju_ckupau

Problems that I can see so far:
1. I can't create folders in the root of mediawiki installation. And probably therefore impossible to upload files.

Solved.

2. Not only I should have sftp access to that root folder (who is familiar with MediaWiki? Whom can we trust?)
3. I haven't found appropriate extension to localise wiki pages on the fly like it is done in Tiki.

Translate Extension installed.

I hope Robin will fix the first problem himself.

As for the third problem I'm waiting for suggestions.

mu'o

On Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:23:10 PM UTC+9, la gleki wrote:

On Wednesday, September 26, 2012 10:20:20 PM UTC+4, iesk wrote:
Thank you for the clarification.
What does the logo in the upper left part of the screen stand for?
Well, just 25 years of Lojban, nothing more.

Oh, and the opening page is currently filled with some non-Lojban text. Maybe the standard propaganda ( http://www.lojban.org/tiki/la%20lojban.%20mo?no_bl=y ) would be fitting?
iesk

Please, develop the wiki, edit it yourself. Tell me what you need. Let's make it better than the old one. Together.