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Re: [lojban] Two new gismu, "stomach" and "back of body". And a proposal for an updated method of generating gismu.

When it comes to discussing the front of the body, we have {flira} for the face, {cutne} for the chest, and {betfu} for the abdomen. Now, when it comes to discussing the back, there're the (poorly formed) lujvo {cutyti'e} and {befti'e}, which according to the gismu deep stucture, simply mean "x1 is behind the chest of x2" and "x1 is behind the abdomen of x2". With that in mind, would "back of head" be {firti'e} ? Can we coin joi-based lujvo to mean frontal side and dorsal side? They could be {cutyjolbe'u} and {cutyti'ekepjolkembefti'e} but that's just getting silly.

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o


On 22 November 2012 13:40, la gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:


On Thursday, November 22, 2012 10:21:51 PM UTC+4, aionys wrote:
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 9:54 AM, la gleki <gleki.is...@gmail.com> wrote:
So do we need  gismu for ventral side?
If so I completely lost.

Peeps, what are the terms fro that in the languages that you speak?
I can't find such a word in English ("ventral side of body" doesn't count).

The ventral side is the opposite of the back side: the stomache, chest. In fact, ventral comes from the Latin word for "belly".

But we already have {betfu} for that with a different meaning, arent we?
 
.e'u if English and other languages lack this word we shoudl remove them from the algorithm and retain the languages that have this concept in a short rootword.


On Monday, September 24, 2012 11:40:40 AM UTC+4, Arnt Richard Johansen wrote:
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 10:10:41PM -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 07:12:54AM -0400, Pierre Abbat wrote:
>
> > The cutne is anterior to the betfu; both have a ventral surface.
>
> Can you point met to an explanation of those words, and words like
> them, that makes that make sense?  Because I don't get it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatomical_terms_of_location#Vertebrate_directional_terms is a bit geeky, but hopefully it helps.


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