Re: [lojban] da and existence

[Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com>]

I agree; it is absurd to claim that everything in the universe of discourse exists without some other qualification. Doing so either amounts to an outright contradictory definition of universe of discourse (if there's something we're talking about in the present context, it's in the universe of discourse, no matter how you try to formalize that notion) or restricts the language to talking about reality, which borders on uselessness.

{ro da zasti fi de} is a more interesting statement. Note that I read {ro da zasti} in isolation as {ro da zasti fi zu'i}, for pragmatics.

mi'e la latro'a mu'o

On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 10:36 PM, John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrote:

No, I don't think so.  At least not necessarily.  The UD can be fairly small  (and how can large in comparison with infinity be exaggeration neutral?)  And certainly, not everything exists.  Unicorns don't for this discourse at least.  And neither does Sherlocke Holmes (any of him). 

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From: Stela Selckiku <selckiku@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 9:13 PM

Subject: Re: [lojban] da and existence

On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 5:25 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:

In another thread there were comments that led me to believe that {da} must refer to a thing that actually exists. 

.i sampu .i .ia cai zo'o nai ro da zasti .i lo munje cu barda fi lo cimni ba'u cu'i 

mi'e la stela selckiku 

mu'o 

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