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Re: [lojban] Re: No gismu for Difference



On 25 March 2013 12:01, Adam Chevalier <chevalieradam2@gmail.com> wrote:
Wait, what about vimcu?
Its not perfect, especially when you see the notation about alienation (i've been learning gismu with Anki and it doesn't have this notation, so I assumed it was mathematical until grabbed that link).


Ian explained this rather well, I think.

On 25 March 2013 1 AM, Ian wrote:
The problem is that arithmetic is supposed to abstract physical situations. Addition abstracts the merging of groups, while subtraction abstracts the removal of a subgroup from a group. In other words, [addition is parallel to {jmina}, and subtraction is parallel to {vimcu}]

Indeed, {vimcu} is for the physical removal of a subgroup from a group, such as getting a haircut. Math is the abstracted version of this physical situation. More importantly, it doesn't make sense for jmina, fendi, and <I don't know which physical relationship relates to pilji> to have mathematical abstractions, namely sumji, dilcu, and pilji, but not {vimcu}.

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o

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