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Re: [lojban] Isomorphism in lo cmalu noltru



So far as I can tell (and/or recall) there are three practices, possibly dictated in part by texts being translated or those most familiar to the author: full quotes as object of a verb of speaking, full quotes with a parenthetical verb of speaking, no quotes and separate lines -- and often no verbs of speaking after a conversation gets started, at least with with only two interlocutors. I assume that in all cases the purported isomorphism is with the speakers not the speech.



From: iesk <pa.fae@gmx.de>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2013 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [lojban] Isomorphism in lo cmalu noltru

la selpa'i:
>I'm not saying you must pronounce the
>text in amonotone voice; I'm saying voice
>shouldn't matter one way or the other.

>but the text mustn't lose any information
>if you subtract from it all those nuances
>in your speech pattern.

I'm not usually into relativising everything to death, but, clearly, that is an ideal---or a chimaera. An absence, too, of particular nuances in your speech pattern is information.

I think I understand what you are saying, though.

>All you need to do is imagine an
>implicit "sei X cusku" in the
>appropriate places.

O.K. But I mean, if Lojban 'standard procedure', or literature convention, were to use {lu}/{li'u}, then their intentional non-usage per se would be potentially meaningful/interpretable. (This is somehow parallel to the stuff above about [absence of] voice patterns.)

The question is: Is there an established Lojban standard procedure for texts like lo cmalu noltru? Possibly, I don't read enough Lojban to know. (Hopefully will.)

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