la latro'a cu cusku di'e
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 5:00 PM, selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de <mailto:seladwa@gmx.de>> wrote: You can use {lo ka ce'u ma kau kelvo} in this case, but my suggestion was meant to be a general one. I would say that if there's a number, then there's a place that you can get at that involves that number. You may have to circumlocute, but if you really don't want to do so, {co'e ma kau} exists.
But there is no number in most predicates, for example {xendo} or {melbi}. {ni}'s role then is to introduce a number. {co'e ma kau} can hardly be called a solution.
Also, I prefer {ni} not to be "weird". "Weird" was the wrong word, the point was that it's the vague comparable term, the natural zmadu3, etc.
And that's exactly the kind of {ni} I don't like. I base {ni} entirely on {klani}. Your vague {ni} is unlike anything in the language, but maybe you can show me a Lojban definition of it.
It's not a number, at least not typically (in my view it never is, since there's no clear rule for when it can and can't be and whether it is or isn't has a marked impact on semantics.)
For me it's always a number. mu'o mi'e la selpa'i -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.