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Re: [lojban] Final state of cenba/zenba/etc.



la latro'a cu cusku di'e
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 5:00 PM, selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de
<mailto:seladwa@gmx.de>> wrote:

    You can use {lo ka ce'u ma kau kelvo} in this case, but my
    suggestion was meant to be a general one.

I would say that if there's a number, then there's a place that you can
get at that involves that number. You may have to circumlocute, but if
you really don't want to do so, {co'e ma kau} exists.

But there is no number in most predicates, for example {xendo} or {melbi}. {ni}'s role then is to introduce a number. {co'e ma kau} can hardly be called a solution.


    Also, I prefer {ni} not to be "weird".

"Weird" was the wrong word, the point was that it's the vague comparable
term, the natural zmadu3, etc.

And that's exactly the kind of {ni} I don't like. I base {ni} entirely on {klani}. Your vague {ni} is unlike anything in the language, but maybe you can show me a Lojban definition of it.

It's not a number, at least not typically
(in my view it never is, since there's no clear rule for when it can and
can't be and whether it is or isn't has a marked impact on semantics.)

For me it's always a number.

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

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