Re: [lojban] for Pierre: puffins

[Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org>]

On Tuesday, April 09, 2013 09:48:49 John E Clifford wrote:
> Someone elsewhere asked about puffins in various conlangs.  Lojban doesn't
> have 'em at the moment, but I volunteered cpifratercula or cipnyfratercula,
> subject to getting the phonotactics right.  Corrections and improvements
> please. (little brothers of the Great Auk or some religious order with
> similar cloaks, though clearly not Franciscans?)

Type 3: cipnrfraterkula.
Type 4: fraterkula.
"cpifraterkula" is not a type-3 but a type-4; type 4 consists of a rafsi 
ending in a consonant, an interfix r/n/l, and a foreign part beginning in a 
consonant. That's from the scientific name, which means "small (female) 
brother" (see http://curioustaxonomy.net/etym/transl.html). I've been out 
looking at trucks today and just saw the email and haven't looked for names in 
other languages.

On Tuesday, April 09, 2013 13:51:51 John E Clifford wrote:
> c/k is an aesthetic choice here, the one for sound (though c is no more
> stably /k/ in Late Latin than in other languages) one for look (which is
> stable).

"c" before "u" either stayed /k/ or became /g/ in all Romance languages as far 
as I know offhand. It's before "e" and "i" that it turned into /kj/, then 
/tsj/, then various sounds including /tʃ/. Also "c" before "a" sometimes 
became /ʃ/ in French.

Pierre
-- 
li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa

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