Re: [lojban] sutra/masno by standard

[Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com>]

  I hear what you are saying, Ian, but I respectfully disagree.  I doubt there can normally be a "lo ka broda" in those places, though, any more than there can be in the x1 of manri.  I might be more inclined to agree with your sumti-raising  objection.  For example, if I said "tu masno lo te nilsutra be lo si'o minli cacra parbi keiku  bei li mu" (if masno3 did actually exist, and was defined to be "by standard") It might mean either  "That's slow when compared to 5MPH goers" or "That's slow in the opinion/from the vantgae point of 5MPH goers".

              --gejyspa

On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm sure this has been covered in the past month (alebit not directly in this thread), but standards places are equivalent to ma'i = lo manri.  It's not an explanation of what it's doing (which might be a tai, ta'i, or ji'u place), but the standards by which it is adjudged, or the vantage point from which it is being observed (depending on the gismu in questin).  stevo has it right.

         --gejyspa

It depends a bit on the brivla, but I think there's definitely something to the ka form of these by standard places, though. "Slow in that they go slower than 5 mph", that is, in this context things are slow if they go below 5 mph. Just having "5 mph" or something in a standard place is implicit raising at best.

mi'e la latro'a mu'o

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