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Re: [lojban] Re: [lojban-beginners] questions about lojban



{lo ka ta pelxu} is clearly grammatical.  the problem is that (like most things that are grammatical) it doesn't make any obvious sense or, perhaps, makes too many not very obvious senses.  A property of worlds, say, or a particular shade of yellow in this one or ... .  How is it to be avoided ? Allowing only {ce'u} after {ka}?  And thus creating a new word class --or two?  Seems Draconian, when you can get by by just not using it.

Be nice to know what version of xorlo Lojbab understands.



From: selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: [lojban-beginners] questions about lojban

la .lojbab. cu cusku di'e
> selpa'i wrote:
>> la .pycyn. cu cusku di'e
>>> Herein is the crux.  What is Lojban?  It is surely not the language off
>>> CLL or much like it;
>>
>> Surely not.
>>
>>> it is not that modified by xorlo (any of the dozen
>>> or so xorlos, not counting those by xorxes himself).
>>
>> xorlo is but a tiny fraction of what sets apart CLL-Lojban from
>> Now-Lojban.
>
> Anyone who uses something other that CLL-Lojban plus xorlo is not using
> the standard language.  I, for one, probably won't understand them,
> because I have explicitly chosen NOT to learn experimental/proposed
> changes.  I suspect that a lot of others are like me.

A good example is the evolution of {ka}. Nowadays, most proficient
speakers would not consider {lo ka ta pelxu} a well-formed _expression_,
even though the CLL accepts it.

There are many more such cases. It would be naive to assume that
everyone is still speaking CLL-Lojban.

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

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