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Re: [lojban] Please, the best explanation of {le} vs. {lo}



I am not sure about the propriety of subjectless sentences (other than observatives) in Lojban, though they seem a natural development in this usage.  In any case, the use of (unofficial) anaphoric pronouns (or even official ones, if they work, as they would here) or joining sentences at some point seem more natural repeated full noun phrases in most contexts.



From: selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 8:06 AM
Subject: Re: [lojban] Please, the best explanation of {le} vs. {lo}

la .arpis. cu cusku di'e
> Better than the second choice, I'd probably use
> 1. {mi ponse lo karce .i ky blabi} or
> 2. {mi ponse lo karce noi blabi} or even
> 3. {lo karce ge se ponse mi gi blabi}.

Or even:

    (4) mi ponse lo karce .i blabi
        (sort of literally: "I own Car. Whites.")[1]
        "I own a car. It is white."

While this is not entirely an example of {le} vs {lo}, it's still a very common way to say it, and it shows that even this level of vagueness is appropriate. If stating no sumti at all is sufficient, then surely {lo karce} is, too.

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

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[1]: I feel this is how Lojban should be translated into English, as it's the only way to convey the vagueness inherent in the Lojban. "Car" instead of "a car" or "the car" both of which would arbitrarily favor a reading that the Lojban does not force, and "whites" as a verb, because {blabi} *is* a verb, as is every Lojban predicate.

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