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Re: [lojban] How not to learn lojban

Years ago, someone thought hope heard Loglan on a bus in San Frncisco.  It turned out to be Albanian (of the South Italian variety, if that matters).

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On Jun 13, 2013, at 9:59, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:

  Oddly, I've always thought of it  as sounding Japanese, which is strange because Japanese doesn't have consonant clusters, of course (except with -n-). Probably because of  the preponderance of vowel-ending words and cmavo clusters.

      --gejyspa



On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Ilmen <ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com> wrote:
selpa'i a écrit :

la .ianek. cu cusku di'e
vu tagda ri la cangu xo finda'a i te zu janvi ke vi'e matni ni blaxadju

How does it not sound like Lojban?

It very much does.

But what does Lojban sound like to someone who doesn't know it?

It would be interesting to get someone without any prior knowledge of Lojban to give their impression of it. One could play some audio to them and then ask them to imitate it afterwards. I'm fairly confident that they would produce something slightly less close to Lojban than the thing you wrote. (I've heard some people say some very negative things about how Lojban sounds, so those would likely butcher it on purpose).

Virtually anyone could try this experiment at home, as it shouldn't be hard to find people who don't know Lojban.

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

I'm not sure whether this is relevant to the discussion, but one day I made a (Spanish speaking) linguistic friend (who studies and listened to many different languages) listen to one of your lojbanic recordings, Selpa'i (the one of Godot IIRC), and asked him what did he think of spoken Lojban. His reply was "nothing special, it reminds me of some languages spoken in Africa". :P

ni'o mi'e la .ilmen. mu'o


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