Re: [lojban] Please, the best explanation of {le} vs. {lo}

[John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com>]

The definition is doubly suspect.  The object referred to is not incidentally ({noi}) a broda, but restrictedly ({poi}) one.  And {zo'e}is either meaningless or ambiguous: it is defined as the gap filler, which is sometimes a mere something (that makes the sentence true) and sometimes as the obvious (etc.) thing.  If you mean the former, then there is clearly no improvement over "old lo" (not sure just when this one was; it is not CLL, as noted elsewhere).  If it means the latter things (as I suppose it is intended to here to bring in salience), then we have every gap referentially ambiguous, though always preserving truth (a little like formal mathematics, that). 

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From: Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 7:43 AM
Subject: Re: [lojban] Please, the best explanation of {le} vs. {lo}

On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 5:08 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:

No it isn't. All unfilled places are always implicitly filled with zo'e, so rexorlo lo most certainly did have zo'e.

You misunderstand. {lo broda} = {*zo'e* noi ke'a broda}. Old-lo had a da there instead of zo'e. This is a large change.

mi'e la latro'a mu'o 

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