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Re: [lojban] Re: Making a jbo locale file and package for installation, need some suggestions.

IF you want to use the standard of international commerce (etc.), then you are stuck with a seven-day week, beginning with Sunday and proceeding with some variant of Moon, War God, Chief God, Storm God, Love Goddess and Old Fart, and with a dozen months of quite inexplicable meanings in their context (the numbered ones are two off in each case, for example) and randomly varying lengths.  Color names for the days of the week are as cultural as anything else, since different cultures (and languages) divide the spectrum differently, with no guarantee that here will be seven sections.   Finding names for the months is even trickier (unless you go to numbers again) since associations with what happens in that month will vary from place to place (one country's seed time is another's harvest,and so on).  There may be more rational approaches (13 months of 28 days each and an occasional fiddle, say, which makes weeks have some meaning), just as there are more reasonable number systems (for some purposes), but for acceptance in the real world, this creaking structure seems the best to use, while keeping an eye out for a successful reform.


From: Feilen Haksan <feilen1000@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Making a jbo locale file and package for installation, need some suggestions.

Most also use a decimal number system, it doesn't make it any less arbitrary. I do think that colors would reduce confusion and be significantly more intuitive, however a more official tally of active jbopre would probably be smart.
As for months, have we still settled on gregorian? It's, at the very least, widespread, but we don't have a zero index. (This may not be a problem however, as I don't think locale specifications take that into account)
On Jul 10, 2013 9:53 AM, "Michael Turniansky" <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 9:27 AM, la arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
Colors on the other hand aren't because you made it (or it's used in China?)
I still think neutrality is important, but gleki brought up a good point on IRC : There's no way to be neutral when we're using someone else's calendar already.

ti'e even bacteria have 7-day cycles. so it might be neutral. Of course we might ask {ma jalge?}. Is it humanity that forces bacteria to follow this worldwide artificial cycle. Or is it nature that forces people to use it's 7-day cycle?

  As I brought up back in Octobor 2010, out of 7 billion people in the world, of those that use a week system, approximately only 25 million people (the Igbo) use a other-than-7-day system.  So, while it might irk them, the 7 day system is pretty much widespread on this planet.

          --gejyspa

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