Re: [lojban] Re: Making a jbo locale file and package for installation, need some suggestions.

Well, in the 1920s in the US, a large number of young women did indeed opt to have their pinkie toes on both feet lopped off. The goal was to fit into the stylish long slim high-heel shoes. This practice dies out as young girls were forced into narrow shoes from an early age and so grew up not quite Chinese but seriously footbound for all that.

From: Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Making a jbo locale file and package for installation, need some suggestions.

Don't confuse "arbitrariness" with "cultural non-neutrality". It's arbitrary that we don't chop off our pinkie toes on the left foot, and yet, I don't know of any culture that does so, so "keeping pinkie toes intact" is culturally neutral.

--gejyspa

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Feilen Haksan <feilen1000@gmail.com> wrote:

Most also use a decimal number system, it doesn't make it any less arbitrary. I do think that colors would reduce confusion and be significantly more intuitive, however a more official tally of active jbopre would probably be smart.

As for months, have we still settled on gregorian? It's, at the very least, widespread, but we don't have a zero index. (This may not be a problem however, as I don't think locale specifications take that into account)

On Jul 10, 2013 9:53 AM, "Michael Turniansky" <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 9:27 AM, la arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:

Colors on the other hand aren't because you made it (or it's used in China?)

I still think neutrality is important, but gleki brought up a good point on IRC : There's no way to be neutral when we're using someone else's calendar already.

ti'e even bacteria have 7-day cycles. so it might be neutral. Of course we might ask {ma jalge?}. Is it humanity that forces bacteria to follow this worldwide artificial cycle. Or is it nature that forces people to use it's 7-day cycle?

As I brought up back in Octobor 2010, out of 7 billion people in the world, of those that use a week system, approximately only 25 million people (the Igbo) use a other-than-7-day system. So, while it might irk them, the 7 day system is pretty much widespread on this planet.

--gejyspa

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